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    Apr 30 2009

    When MMO’s go bad

    Published by dawn at 7:32 am under Gaming, Online Gaming Edit This

    Maybe I am the only insane one feeling like this, but  I am so pissed about another of my games making such HUGE changes that I wont be playing it anymore. this is long, but if your a gamer, read it, you will understand my rant more so.

    [09:08] <T45> how’s RoC too?
    [09:08] <Aysha> its going okay, kinda bored of it
    [09:08] <Ayshah> going to get some more old DESers to play with me
    [09:08] <Ayshah> snake bonsai might
    [09:10] <T45> next age is bad
    [09:11] <Ayshah> tell me
    [09:11] <Ayshah> will i quit
    [09:11] <Ayshah> is sab fucked?
    [09:12] <T45> didn’t u read the changes?
    [09:13] <Vivlady> no lol
    [09:13] <Ayshah> i dont go to gua anymore
    [09:13] <T45> well not on gua
    [09:13] <Ayshah> where?
    [09:14] <T45> # Sabotage has been adjusted to be clearer, more equal, and less uncertain. The effect of doubles (having a spy rank that is no better than 1/3rd of the average of the other three ranks) has been removed. Spy and sentry tool damage is increased to enable you to cause the same amount of gold in damage to spy/sentry tools as one could traditionally only do to attack/defense weapons. Damage points from broken attack/defense weapons have been remo
    [09:14] <T45> # Covert troops will die if you fail to defend an attack. Covert stats are easier to raise than they were in age 1, with the change of cheaper covert tools being more cost-effective. But with the risk that if you should choose to use the more cost-effective covert tools to be more effective at spy or sentry, you will have more covert troops at risk of death if you do not keep up a decent defense.
    [09:14] <T45> # Gathering information by a recon mission is harder. However, alliances now share recon information automatically, so depending on how efficient is the recon squad of the alliance you’re in, you may still be able to get detailed information on somebody you’re looking to farm or sabotage.
    [09:14] <T45> http://www.ruinsofchaos.com/ageend.php
    [09:15] <Ayshah> so in laymens terms, if ur a sabber ur fucked
    [09:15] <T45> yep

    [09:15] <T45> venge and fury are both rankers
    [09:16] <T45> how would sabbers aget a chance?

    [09:19] <Ayshah> i cant be bothered, i play a sabber because i like it
    [09:19] <Ayshah> ya know
    [09:19] <Ayshah> why play a game i cant play
    [09:19] <Ayshah> in a way that gives me pleasure[09:22] <T45> yeah
    [09:22] <T45> i like being a sabber
    [09:23] <T45> and now with the doubles gone
    [09:23] <Vivlady> me too, is why i play
    [09:23] <T45> i don’t need to blance my statrs anymore
    [09:23] <T45> but
    [09:23] <T45> they made3 covert loss
    [09:23] <T45> and tools get more damage
    [09:23] <T45> it’s already a lot of damage tbh
    [09:23] <Ayshah> i get like 2 bill damage on 11k axes sabbed
    [09:23] <Ayshah> what the fuck more they want
    [09:23] <T45> but rankers needs easier damage
    [09:24] <T45> lol
    [09:24] <T45> as i said
    [09:24] <T45> they want to do easier damage with less work

    [09:25] <Ayshah> sux cuz then why beta test, why have these betas
    [09:25] <Ayshah> if your not going to take in everyones opinion
    [09:25] <T45> hehe
    [09:25] <Ayshah> those changes are all ranker changes
    [09:25] <Ayshah> bitching
    [09:25] <Ayshah> that their being sabbed
    [09:26] <T45> nicely said
    [09:26] <Ayshah> KOC = ROC

    okay so now some history of ROC.  ROC was made when KOC went bad.  KOC did just about the same thing to people whom played accounts that were saber’s, they destroyed it.  And of course the years of me being a bully and mean and destroying accounts came back to bite me in the ass, I was destroyed by a lot of people in quite a few alliances, why because you couldn’t play the game the way I did anymore.  KOC is now a negotiating game, everyone negotiates u to death until your so tired of hearing it you cry into submission and beg them to shut up.

    ROC has now followed suit.  I am probably one of the last true saber’s (people whom build mostly all spy and coverts in their account) so they can destroy people.  So to me this is like losing being told you have to sit at the back of the bus because your black.  They made ROC because KOC fucked up and took away the huge sabotage feature which make Kings of Chaos, well chaotic.  People like me flooded the game, OMG we can sab again, death destruction and ruin!

    and BAM… take it away.

    My alliance has been around a while and there have been a huge number of people in it, were small now so the changes would effect us hugely to where defending ourselves would be an issue. Okay sure, you say, meh your being a baby.  If your going to make one type of account so hard to play, then why implement it in your game?  The other style of accounts don’t nearly have that kind of restrictions.  It makes no sense. Like putting elves in Lotro and then making them def mutes with no weapons, pointless.

    Kings of Chaos used to have a player base of around 500k in its day, then after almost a year age 7, they came back, had a short beta and fucked the whole game up. Made such drastic changes that in age 11, which I think is what the game is in now, there is about 24k players. Granted tons of accounts were doubles and triples, but a heavy player base left of veterans after the changes. I was just a glutton for punishment and stayed a bit longer

    Moving to Ruins of Chaos, it had everything I liked, sabotage, and one account on another couldn’t do much damage, I get mass sabbed a lot and have a huge amount of weapon damage, I cant image more, it will make my alliance not be able to play.

    Its like losing a dog.  I am hurt and pissed off. If you don’t game or haven’t in one game for years, you cant understand.  you feel loyal to your games and their communities, whether anyone likes me or not, they get used to me and mine being there.

    Why make a game to pull people to it because they play one style, and then so drastically change it. I just don’t get it, and I suppose will never understand it. I must say the one programmer of the game ROC he does play, and he is considered a ranker.  A probably why a lot of the sab changes were made. this goes back to my post on should programmers play their own games actively.  Maybe maybe not, but when you have betas and don’t take in the voice of the people you invite to the beta, why bother, just change shit to accommodate the cliques and tell the rest to fuck off .  Tim aka vengefuldeath had once told me he wanted the game to make money, but to make money you have to market to the whole of the game, not just part of it.

    Seems to me they have taken their ball and gone home.
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